August 7, 2019
Well, we’re back online with Bitmitigate, so I figured 8chan would be too.
But they won’t be.
Just two days after temporarily helping 8chan get back online, Epik has changed its mind.
The Seattle-area company said Tuesday that it will not provide web hosting service for 8chan, the far-right extremism website connected to a mass shooting in El Paso, Texas.
“Upon careful consideration of the recent operating history of 8Chan, and in the wake of tragic news in El Paso and Dayton over the weekend, Epik has elected to not provide content delivery services to 8Chan,” Epik said in a statement. “This is largely due to the concern of inadequate enforcement and the elevated possibility of violent radicalization on the platform.”
I have to say, I’m sorry for 8chan, but at the same time, I don’t really know what Epik was supposed to do.
8chan subscribed to their service right in the middle of the biggest internet backlash since Charlottesville, right as the Eye of Sauron was on them at full blast, and you can’t expect a small company like Epik to simply go down with you on principle.
And before you call me a hypocrite for having put my own problems on small companies when I was deplatformed like 8chan currently is being deplatformed back in 2017, there are some distinct differences:
- Firstly, in 2017, we didn’t know about chain-banning. Now we do know about chain-banning. This is where you get banned and try to move services and every service you move to bans you and cites their justification for banning you as the fact that previous people have banned you.
- Secondly, Bitmitigate has already had their BGP peers pulled as a result of serving 8chan. So this is not simply not wanting to deal with being called bigots, this is the very real fact that their company cannot continue to exist if they host 8chan.
So while I’m obviously very sympathetic to 8chan, both as a supporter of ultimate free speech and as someone who has been through what they are going through right now, I don’t blame Bitmitigate for making this decision. They did not have any choice.
What 8chan owner Jim “Gentleman Jim” Watkins should have done is wait a week – or even just a few days – before trying to move to Bitmitigate. Once the outrage machine dies down, there are still naggy people, but they can’t drum-up mass support for these types of insane new types of deplatforming demands (this was the first time BGP peers were pulled, and yes, it was obviously illegal, but it just doesn’t matter – we have no justice system anymore).
Basically, the outrage over this particular shooting in El Paso can’t be sustained long-term, because the fact that the second shooter that day, the one in Dayton, is a leftist is now in the mainstream media, and people are speculating over the fact that it appears that the second shooting was a response to the first, because the Dayton shooter was following the El Paso shooting live.
So it’s going to be gone by the weekend.
I do hope that 8chan figures something out, because this definitely is an actual moral outrage. If they committed a crime, the government should deal with it – not the child rape-endorser Matthew Prince.
Also, just for those 8chan folks coming here for updates, the Zeronet version of 8chan was not created and is not endorsed by the site devs.
8chan on zeronet was not made by our team and I have no idea who set that up.
— Ron (@CodeMonkeyZ) August 7, 2019
You need to just use the Tor hidden service. This is an unnecessary thing, and Zeronet wants you to install software on your computer to use it.
Again, I never encourage people to go to 8chan, because it is just so filled with spooks. But for those of you who know what you’re doing, and are looking to get on the site, please use the officially endorsed Tor site. Zeronet is open source, but still – there is no reason to be involved with something that requires you to install strange software when you can simply use Tor.