June 28, 2018
Yes, Germany classifies “Holocaust Denial” as “sedition.”
And they will put your grandma in jail if she says there is no evidence of gas chambers at Auschwitz. Despite the fact that thus far, no one has produced any evidence of gas chambers at Auschwitz.
A court in Detmold on Friday sentenced Ursula Haverbeck to eight months in jail on charges of sedition. The presiding judge ruled out the possibility of parole and said that Haverbeck had a lack of “any kind of respect” and that she had made more offensive comments in the courtroom.
Haverbeck is expected to appeal against the sentencing. In Germany, anyone who publicly denies, endorses or plays down the extermination of Jews during Adolf Hitler’s regime can be sentenced to a maximum of five years in jail.
Haverbeck was found guilty of writing a letter to Detmold’s mayor, Rainer Heller, saying it was “clearly recognizable” that Auschwitz was nothing more than a labor camp. She wrote her message at the time when the Detmold court was trying Reinhold Hanning, a former guard who served at the Auschwitz concentration camp.
The 94-year-old was sentenced to five years in prison after the court found him guilty of being an accessory to the murder of 170,000 people, mostly Jews. Haverbeck spoke about Hanning’s trial in her letter, alleging that the witnesses at the trial were set up to prove the existence of the concentration camp.
Ursula Haverbeck is known for her right-wing extremist views. Several courts have sentenced her and her punishments include two fines and another suspended sedition sentence. She was on trial last year for saying that the Holocaust was “the biggest and longest-lasting lie in history.”
I have to say, sedition is an appropriate charge.
Because this makes it so it is irrelevant if what she is saying is true.
Whether or not the Holocaust happened or not, it is the foundation of the modern German state, so questioning the truth of it is sedition even if it did not actually happen.
If it was shown to have not happened, the modern state of Germany could no longer exist. Every single aspect of the modern social order of that country is predicated on the assumption that the German race is collectively responsible for the systematic murder of exactly six million Jews. So she IS by definition committing sedition by drawing attention to the fact that this foundational myth is untrue.
It would be great if a judge would just say it like that.
The court in Ernst Zundel’s Holodenial case in Canada actually did say it.
It was a slightly different – but not all that different in principle – decision.
They told him that a statement was illegal whether or not it was true if it was likely to cause someone to hate someone else.
In 2000, Mark Weber wrote for The Institute for Historical Review about Zundel’s 1998 trial:
Amazingly, “truth is no defense” in this bizarre proceeding. Neither the truthfulness (factuality) of a “complained of” writing, nor the motive of the writer, may be considered in determining if it is “likely” to expose persons to “hatred or contempt.” As Chairman Pensa bluntly put it:
“It is the finding of this Tribunal that truth is not an issue before us. Parliament has spoken. The use of telephone messages for purposes prohibited by section 13 of the Act cannot be justified by asserting that such messages are truthful. The sole issue is whether such communications are likely to expose a person or persons to hatred or contempt.”
Observes CAFE director Fromm: “This mad hatter’s tea party has decided that ‘truth is no defense,’ that truth doesn’t matter. It’s only the feelings of the aggrieved minority that determines whether a statement is ‘likely’ to expose them to hatred or contempt’.”
It’s the same basic logic in Germany, except it is on a much larger scale.
If it became common knowledge in Germany that Hitler literally did nothing wrong… I can’t even begin to imagine what would happen.